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RE: nihiwatu sumba« on: November 27 2008 20:11:00 »
I stayed at Nihiwatu mid Sept 08... Waves got to 8 - 12 feet Hawaiin (Biggest Indo swell for 08) but on average were 3 - 5 feet. IMO on 8 days I surfed it it was a very sectiony wave on my backhand based on the swell direction. On the days I had it it wasn't world class but on its day I am sure it could be. Also checked out Sumba Sunset and 2 peaks.
Re: Nihiwatu foundation - That's another discussion.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #1 on: November 17 2009 07:11:00 »
I think everyone has missed the issue. Those of you who are upset that the ocean belongs to everyone and not one person, but use the excuse that Graves has bribbed the locals and has them in his pocket, really don't care about the locals at all. The fact is that you just want to surf the wave for free and if it meant that the locals were worse off than with Graves' current policy you wouldn't care because (1) you wouldn't know how to assess it and (2) you'd hide behind the freedom of the ocean argument.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #2 on: November 17 2009 07:11:00 »
follow on..Those that talk about the locals surfing the spot are also living in an alternate universe where you can not work, live of the state and behave like the parasites you are grown out of un-earned democratic socialism. The people of Sumba had an incredibly high child mortality rate and live day to day for survival. The concept of taking on a sport is not a reality as it is a luxury far out of reach. Since Graves has been there, with the money earned from the foundation and from the money from the resort, the mortality rate for children has dropped dramatically to almost 50% - these are real lives.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #3 on: November 17 2009 07:11:00 »
follow on....Finally, the fact that some people can pay for it and others can't is just life. Deal with it. If the locals owned the break and had the same policy would you complain? Probably. You can't afford it, you can't surf it. There's some really nice land out there that I'd like to build a house on, but it belongs to someone else and i can't afford it.....do i complain and squat on it and moan about it? No. I work to try and get it. That's why we live in a capitalist world and that's why you have the freedom you have now (although none of us earned it with blood, sweat or tears, just some of us appreciate it for what it is and others just want to take from it.....that's those who want everything for free for doing nothing).
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #4 on: November 19 2009 07:11:00 »
Good argument. Lives do matter. I am glad if people on Sumba are living better and longer. But I don't think that's the only way to achieve that. I strongly feel it sets a dangerous precident. Where does it stop? There are so many spots in Indonesia that could be privatized. Look at Northern Baja. Most of the best surf spots are off limits due to hard working Americans. Money talks and there's no end. Look at Ekas Bay on Lombok. You think the owners of the so called "eco resort" there haven't looked at what's happening on Sumba and pondered doing the same? There are alot of opportunists out there hiding behind capitilism, free enterprise, and yes charity. I appreciate your opinion and the dialogue on the subject. And yes I work more than I surf.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #5 on: November 20 2009 02:11:00 »
Ha ha...goblok bule!!!....You relly beleive what you speak, Graves is just another greedy westerner out to make $ and protect what he thinks is his paradise from others, get the locals on side pay the right people and you can do anything in Indonesia....Why is Sumba diffrent to Mentawai, they try but can not do same in mentawai because to many other western boat make problem and stop this...im sorry to see my country go this way.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #6 on: January 23 2010 13:01:463 »
Anyone been to NIhiwatu in October? What was swell like, and what were the conditions? I am staying at the resort, as for paying for exclusivity I am stoked to not fight crouds like I did in Bali.
Is the reef sharp or can you get away with not wearing booties?
Thanks for your help
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #7 on: September 28 2010 06:09:00 »
graves can eat my @ss with a spoon, another yank f...wit is trying to do the same in sumbawa. where does the first money go? the police or the hospital. we all know the answer. money money money.
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #8 on: December 26 2010 03:12:00 »
I'm rich ... your not!
I'll surf Nihi ... you won't.
Ha ha ha!
RE: nihiwatu sumba« Reply #9 on: December 28 2013 20:12:00 »
Check out the latest comments re Nihiwatu Resort on Tripadvisor website ... new owner aiming at "Young Jewish Newyorker" market.
Occy's left will soon become Oy Vays left.