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Topic: Are wave pools a farce?

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replies: 136

By:

chris

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Philippines Philippines

 

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« on: March 22 2009 11:03:00 »

Check out this wave pool in Japan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-srTtMf2RI

I wish CME had one of those hehehe :)

By:

Al Keita

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #1 on: March 29 2009 07:03:00 »

"There are some people that don’t but that doesn’t necessarily mean that Darryl is one of them, you have to find out for yourself if he does or does not."
Romel,
You’re asking me if Daryl is one of those people that practices safety in surf conditions. Pay my buddy and his buddy’s entrance fee so that we’ll see for ourselves. Not everyone can afford it. Get wet in the real thing during a small day, which there are a lot, and find out for free or with a local for a lesser fee than with yours and Daryl’s fee. The money stays in the Philippines and helps support the locals

By:

AlKeita

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #2 on: March 29 2009 07:03:00 »

Rodel Quemi,
People who can afford to pay the amount usually are well off, better schooled and have expectations of knowing what to do just because their false sense of confidence was earned and paid for in a pool. Bring someone with those credentials into real conditions and they’ll likely bring along that false sense of safety/ability. In short, pools have their purpose but it certainly does not replace learning in a real environment, either in big or small waves, if one wanted to pursue the sport. There are variables that make learning in a pool less dangerous but it is the same variables that can only be learned in the real thing and the best part is that it’s affordable and in most cases, free.

By:

Darryl

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #3 on: March 29 2009 21:03:00 »

WOW! Alkieta you just wont give up. I hope people read all these posts and see how ridiculous you look. We do surf trips to the beach every week and advise all of our students that come to the wavepool to come with us and try. Furthuremore, we do tell all of our students about the ocean and warn them not to surf in the ocean without an instructor. We have certain schools and coaches we recomend in most of the surf locations throughout the Phils. All of which are Pinoy.

By:

Darryl

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #4 on: March 29 2009 21:03:00 »

As I said before Alkieta, you are commenting on someone you know nothing about (which is not good) and an industry you are not quite as experienced as the guy you are talking about. Or you are just trying to pull Paolo and me down (which is also not good). You use an alias (which is also not good). Why dont you do something good and come try the pool (and yes, I will pay your entry to surf it. I can face you (I'll even pay for your surf to face you),  can you face me?

By:

Rodel Quemi (Coayan Ilocos Sur)

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #5 on: March 29 2009 22:03:00 »

AlKieta / Antonio Montana,

"You’re asking me if Daryl is one of those people that practices safety in surf conditions. Pay my buddy and his buddy’s entrance fee so that we’ll see for ourselves. Not everyone can afford it. Get wet in the real thing during a small day, which there are a lot, and find out for free or with a local for a lesser fee than with yours and Daryl’s fee. The money stays in the Philippines and helps support the locals"

The burden is on you to prove if Darryl does not teach safety or not since you're the one criticizing him, so don't be a freeloader and go work and pay for your own lessons.

By:

Rodel Quemi (Coayan Ilocos Sur)

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #6 on: March 29 2009 23:03:00 »

Alkieta / Antonio Montana:

“Bring someone with those credentials into real conditions and they’ll likely bring along that false sense of safety/ability…”

You’re making a sweeping generalization of people who learn in the pool, as I said earlier, it depends on the individual. You haven’t even taken lessons with Daryl and yet you have all these assumptions about people who learn in the pool.

I agree that you can’t replace learning in a real environment, but as I said, it doesn’t hurt to have learned some skills in the pool, and it doesn’t follow that learning in a pool will give you a “false sense of safety/ability”.

By:

AlKeita

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #7 on: March 31 2009 06:03:00 »

When you say “we do tell all of our students about the ocean and warn them not to surf in the ocean without an instructor” you forgot to mention that it HAS to be affiliated with you. What about the rest? Who do you recommend outside of the spots that aren’t affiliated with your “quality instruction”? Start dropping names in spots like SIargao, Baler, Catanduanes etc. (you’ve been around, name them). Those spots are safe because they have guys who’ve been there, teach the dangers and assist the distress. Don’t downplay that fact that these guys didn’t take your “quality” safety courses and are just  as good or better at teaching what they know best in the spots that they learned from.

By:

AlKeita

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #8 on: March 31 2009 06:03:00 »

When you say “we do tell all of our students about the ocean and warn them not to surf in the ocean without an instructor” you forgot to mention that it HAS to be affiliated with you. What about the rest? Who do you recommend outside of the spots that aren’t affiliated with your “quality instruction”? Start dropping names in spots like SIargao, Baler, Catanduanes etc. (you’ve been around, name them). Those spots are safe because they have guys who’ve been there, teach the dangers and assist the distress. Don’t downplay that fact that these guys didn’t take your “quality” safety courses and are just  as good or better at teaching what they know best in the spots that they learned from.

By:

AlKeita

RE: Are wave pools a farce?

« Reply #9 on: March 31 2009 07:03:00 »

It all comes down to profit and money. All the positives that makes surfing what it is is just a marketing ploy. As for my name/alias, this is the Philippines, whatever connection you might have can/might do me harm for being opinionated.It's obvious that you reply on a personal level by talking about other's families when it is an issue over pool surfing schools. I didn't name names like you fools did. You purposely put yourselves in the hot seat and made it personal when you know full well that this is cyberspace and everyone who has access to a computer can and will criticize you. When you get criticism like you're getting now, don't take dwell too much. IT'S JUST AN OPINION! KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!


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